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Who Won the Presidential Debate? Patch Survey Takers Say Romney

Barack Obama and Mitt Romney met for their first debate. We surveyed influential Illinois politicians and guests at Patch watch parties, who say the president whiffed.

 
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Suburban Chicago residents react to the first presidential debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney after attending Patch Debate Viewing Parties on Oct. 3, 2012.
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Suburban Chicago residents react to the first presidential debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney after attending Patch Debate Viewing Parties on Oct. 3, 2012.

Illinois Republicans said Mitt Romney "hit a home run" in the Oct. 3 presidential debate and some Democrats said President Barack Obama "looked unprepared," even if they still agree with what he said. 

Patch conducted a quick, unscientific poll among politically involved citizens following the debate and also surveyed residents at watch parties throughout the suburbs. 

Of the 19 Republicans who responded to the online survey, 16 said Romney won by a wide margin and one said he defeated Obama by a slim margin. Two Republican respondents said Obama won the debate. 

"I expected Obama to lecture Romney. I never expected Romney to lecture Obama," one Republican said. "Obama spent more time looking at his belly button like a little kid being lectured on where he went wrong."

Read Patch's live chat to re-live the top moments of the debate.

Only seven Democrats replied to the online survey, and they conceded the victory to Romney. Three said the Republican won by a slim margin and two said it was by a wide margin. 

"The president did not look properly prepared for the debate," said one Democrat who admitted to feeling less confident about Obama's re-election. "The president missed many opportunities to call Romney out on his policies," another Democrat said.

Still, some Democrats said Romney only won because he avoided specifics. 

The reaction at Patch watch parties throughout the suburbs was a bit more mixed but still slightly in favor of Romney. At Moraine Valley Community College, four people said Romney won while two said they thought Obama was better. The same results were given at a party in Yorkville. Five people at a Joliet watch party said Romney won, with just one person choosing Obama. 

Lemont Township supervisor Steve Rosendahl said at a Lemont watch party that the debate was a tie.

"It was a good debate. I enjoyed it," he said. "It's always good when you can have two candidates have a healthy debate about the issues."

A crowd of students at St. Xavier University, on the other hand, was very pro-Obama, with eight saying he won the debate and just two believing Romney had the upper hand. 

"Romney seems to only care about what Romney cares about," student Gina Savage said. "That seems like an issue to me." 

A Republican viewing party in Palatine unanimously decided Romney "smoked" Obama as the audience cheered loudly at the end of the debate.

Residents at the Flossmoor Station watch party, featured on WGN/Channel 9, were also heavily in favor of Obama, with 19 saying the president won compared to just three for Romney. 

"I found that Romney did a good job showing a personable, human side of himself," one person in Flossmoor said. "Still, he was frequently on the defensive so Obama seemed to be at the advantage."

Watch WGN's broadcast from the Patch watch party in Flossmoor

What was the best zinger of the night?

We also surveyed people about the best one-liners of the night, and here's a sampling of what people had to say:

  • "Since you're also going to repeal Obamacare on Day 1, you're going to have a very busy first day." -- Obama 
  • "I may not be a perfect president, which is something Gov. Romney will support." -- Obama
  • "I like Big Bird." -- Romney
  • "Math, common sense and history tells me what you say is wrong." -- Obama
  • "Is he keeping these plans secret because they're too good?" -- Obama
  • "I'm all for green energy but you could have hired two million teachers with that money." -- Romney
  • "You're entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts." -- Romney
Related Topics: Barack Obama, Elections, Mitt Romney, Politics, Presidential Debate, election 2012, and presidential election

One Term 2012

10:14 am on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Best Comment of the night!!!!
"You put $90 billion — like 50 years worth of tax breaks — into solar and wind, to Solyndra and Fisker and Tesla and Ener1," he told the president. "I had a friend who said: 'You don't just pick the winners and losers; you pick the losers.' "

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GuitarMan

10:41 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Dear Conservative Friends,

Your boy Mitt got played, and you haven't figured it out yet.

Mitt showed up loaded for bear to say "xyz". The problem? He's been telling his base "abc". Check the ads prepared and run today by Obama. They are cameos of Mitt on the stump saying "abc", contrasted with his debate pitch, "xyz". Mitt couldn't have created better etch-a-sketch material even if he was paid to do so.

Mr. Obama pulled a rope – a – dope. See comments by S. E. Cupp, a well known Republican journalist, and others, who commented that the Presidents’ reticence was suspiciously obvious.

Now in the subsequent debates on foreign and domestics topics, Mitt will be called out, and trampled on foreign affairs. Thanks Mitt for using your etch-a-sketch!!!

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Doug Daluga

2:15 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Great comment... just not true.

Jose

11:03 am on Thursday, October 4, 2012

ROMNEY WON. BUT LETS BE HONEST, GOP BEEN NO HELP TO OBAMA IN CREATING JOBS...NO--NO--NO TO EVERYTHING...COMPANIES I BELIEVE ARE PURPOSELY NOT HIRING TO DEFEAT OBAMA..I CALL IT THE WAY I SEE IT, WHY I DO NOT HAVE MANY FRIENDS.

A ROMNEY WIN?? TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH. HE WILL DO A BETTER JOB IN ENFORCING THE IMMIGRATION LAWS WHICH I FAVOR..OBAMA IS DOING A LOUSY JOB ENFORCING THE IMMIGRATION LAWS..LOOK AT ARIZONA.
ROMNEY WILL CUT BENEFITS FOR THE POOR, WELFARE--FOOD STAMPS--SOCIAL SECURITY CUTS IN MONTHLY PAYMENTS AND RAISING THE RETIREMENT AGE, COUNT ON IT.

AN OBAMA WIN ?? AMNESTY TO 20 MILLION ILLEGALS WHICH I DO NOT FAVOR. THE DREAM ACT WHICH I DO NOT FAVOR.. DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING TO ADD MORE VOTERS TO THEIR PARTY BY GIVING AMNESTY TO 15--20 MILLION ILLEGALS....GOP SHOULD FIGHT IT ALL THE WAY...

IF DEMOCRATS GET THEIR WAY AND GIVE THE ILLEGALS AMNESTY ??GOP WILL NEVER SEE THE INSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN. IT WILL BE DEMOCRAT CONTROL OF ALL 3 HOUSES.

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Guido McGinty

12:48 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

"GOP BEEN NO HELP TO OBAMA IN CREATING JOBS"

You're complaining about an impossibility. The State cannot create jobs. Redistribute is not synonymous with create.

Since the State cannot create wealth by definition, how would it follow that it can create jobs?

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Joe Nelson

8:09 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Jose, you say the Republicans are not helping Obama "create" jobs, but as the President talks about, everybody has to compromise, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are compromising. One of my favorite things about Governor Romney, is that when he was the Governor of Massachusetts he had to work with a state legislature that was made up of 87% Democrats (I may have gotten that number slightly wrong.) Governor Romney will compromise unlike what seems to be everybody else in Washington. Personally, I probably won't agree with many things that Romney will work with Democrats on, but in modern day Washington that's what we need. In the debate Mr. Obama talked about ObamaCare as a "bi-partisan idea." What he failed to realize is not a single Republican and I believe it was 13 Democrats didn't vote for it. At least Romney, if elected, will work with Democrats unlike almost everybody else in Washington.

CK

12:07 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

All Obama did was talk about we need 100,000 more science teacherd and other cloudy stuff. The federal Government doesn't supply teachers and he is always passing the buck and telling other people what to do. he said were not about the past but about the future but in 08 campaign and since then he does nothing but blame Bush. Now when his past is to be discussed he wants the starting poijnt changed so we dont discuss his past. Arrogant phoney. I agrre with the box above about immigration. If social security is going broke what will 20 mil more people doto it. I can see I will never see my SS.

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G.G.

12:37 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

It'shard to believe that anyone who watched the debate last night would vote for Obama. It just proves that he has coasted all the way to the white house. He never really had any challengers along the way (except maybe Hillary). Like a socialist, all his answers last night were geared toward more government / government spending being the solution to everything. The choice is clear, founding conservative free market principles that created this country and drove it to greatness or socialism..... That some people are still "undecided" scares the hell out of me. Who are these people? There are really no "gray areas" between these two candidates.

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GuitarMan

10:40 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Dear Conservative Friends,

Your boy Mitt got played, and you haven't figured it out yet.

Mitt showed up loaded for bear to say "xyz". The problem? He's been telling his base "abc". Check the ads prepared and run today by Obama. They are cameos of Mitt on the stump saying "abc", contrasted with his debate pitch, "xyz". Mitt couldn't have created better etch-a-sketch material even if he was paid to do so.

Mr. Obama pulled a rope – a – dope. See comments by S. E. Cupp, a well known Republican journalist, and others, who commented that the Presidents’ reticence was suspiciously obvious.

Now in the subsequent debates on foreign and domestics topics, Mitt will be called out, and trampled on foreign affairs. Thanks Mitt for using your etch-a-sketch!!!

Dan Z

1:21 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

When Obama doesn't have a teleprompter to help him read other peoples' words, he's actually pretty flat and weak. Last night's debate was a decisive win for Romney. Every poll and pundit agrees.

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GuitarMan

10:39 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Dear Conservative Friends,
Your boy Mitt got played, and you haven't figured it out yet.
Mitt showed up loaded for bear to say "xyz". The problem? He's been telling his base "abc". Check the ads prepared and run today by Obama. They are cameos of Mitt on the stump saying "abc", contrasted with his debate pitch, "xyz". Mitt couldn't have created better etch-a-sketch material even if he was paid to do so.
Mr. Obama pulled a rope – a – dope. See comments by S. E. Cupp, a well known Republican journalist, and others, who commented that the Presidents’ reticence was suspiciously obvious.
Now in the subsequent debates on foreign and domestics topics, Mitt will be called out, and trampled on foreign affairs. Thanks Mitt for using your etch-a-sketch!!!

Tom Dressler

9:34 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

The comment that keeps coming up that just irks me to no end is the notion that Bill Clinton's high tax rates were the reason that the economy was doing so well in the 90's and that we had surplusses. Everybody forgets the technology bubble and the internet boom throughout the 90's - most of which was completely over inflated. That is why we had surplusses. But once the bubble burst, Bush's tax cuts kept us out of a recession. And, in fact, we collected far more tax revenue under Bush than we did un Clinton. I'm not bashing Clinton - aside from his philandering, he did a good job as president. The fact that Obama thinks that raising taxes will bring in more revenue, is reason enough to get rid of him. Under his thinking, McDonalds should charge $10 for a big mac, they'll take in so much more money. Lower taxes = more investment = more jobs.

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Guido McGinty

10:17 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Indeed. Clinton had the benefit of the internet expansion, $10 oil and genuine productivity gains in the private sector. Lefties like to pretend that tax policy and job creation exist in a vacuum. Jobs expanded despite his tax policy.

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flower child

9:28 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

Tom D,
The empirical evidence is clear -- the Bush tax cuts DID NOT CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH and the Bush tax cuts INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT at an unprecedented pace. These are the data, not mere political rhetoric. Before the Bush tax cuts, when Clinton was President and in the early years of Bush 43, the nation's finances were in the best condition that they've been in in the last 25 years. What happened to the good economy? The Bush tax cuts coupled with successive "supplemental" appropriations so that the Administration could carry out its military excursions without making the public have to pay for them!
It's hard to understand the logic of those pushing for keeping these tax cuts permanent. They keep talking about creating jobs, but don't talk about how those very tax cuts caused massive unemployment nor do they explain what will change the economic environment to turn this job killer into a job maker. The logic doesn't support these people, instead they seem to have just political posturing and sloganing.
The people behind keeping these tax cuts permanent seem to be either those benefiting from the tax cuts, the new robber-barons, or those who are just following slogans of unscrupulous political hacks.
The argument for keeping these tax cuts has no empirical data nor any sound logic behind it. It's plain and simple political nonsense.

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Guido McGinty

11:21 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Token Lefty: "the Bush tax cuts DID NOT CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH and the Bush tax cuts INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT at an unprecedented pace."

Yes, stealing less money from productive people is a bad thing.

Attention lefty, tax policy and job creation do not exist in a vacuum.

Please explain how tax cuts cause unemployment.

GuitarMan

10:36 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012

Dear Conservative Friends,

Your boy Mitt got played, and you haven't figured it out yet.

Mitt showed up loaded for bear to say "xyz". The problem? He's been telling his base "abc". Check the ads prepared and run today by Obama. They are cameos of Mitt on the stump saying "abc", contrasted with his debate pitch, "xyz". Mitt couldn't have created better etch-a-sketch material even if he was paid to do so.

Mr. Obama pulled a rope – a – dope. See comments by S. E. Cupp, a well known Republican journalist, and others, who commented that the Presidents’ reticence was suspiciously obvious.

Now in the subsequent debates on foriegn and domestics topics, Mitt will be called out, and trampled on foriegn affairs. Thanks Mitt for using your etch-a-sketch !!!

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Guido McGinty

11:22 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

The Geeeetar man knows how to copy and paste. Well done Geeeetar man. What's your next trick?

McCloud

5:52 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

The men in white coats just arrived, your ride is waiting.

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chris

6:23 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

Guitar Man, next time, break the pill in half.

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Craig Apelbaum

6:49 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

Romney all the way to the white house.

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Brad Faxton

9:31 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

ROTFLMFAO! Wow - now that is a whopper.

Brad Faxton

9:33 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

Even more awesome is how he brought a cheat sheet with him. The rules clearly state “No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate.”

http://youtu.be/GQZ5_qdHLV8

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Joe Nelson

11:08 am on Friday, October 5, 2012

That was to take notes. Both candidates are allowed to take notes... and they both were.

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Brad Faxton

4:39 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

You are 100% wrong. Paper and pen were already on the podium.

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Chris Miller

4:48 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Brad, I'd like to be on your side on this, but that video was debunked. The truth is that it was his handkerchief that he pulled out and place on the podium.

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Brad Faxton

4:51 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Fox news backed it up by stating that they were embarrassed by the overwhelming audacity he could show when cheating and lying.

Same report on Drudge.

fact checker

3:20 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Hey Guitar Man...... didn't I see you touring with the Soggy Bottom Boys?!

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McCloud

3:23 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Brad, the moon landing was not staged, just thought I'd try to detox you a little.

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mij

8:14 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Bradley
Looked like a hanky when NBC showed it.

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LLOMIS

8:57 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Politics aside, Obama is the best choice

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Guido McGinty

11:23 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Yes, politics aside, vote for this politician. Wait, what?

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LLOMIS

11:46 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Guido McGinty - ok your right - that was funny :)

Vicky Kujawa

9:20 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

TelePrompTer Jesus Epic Fail.

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Guido McGinty

11:31 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

Barry Obama is quite the plagiarist.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/04/obama-plagiarizes-own-debate-promises-fr

Does Barry think that his supporters are that stupid? If so, at least he's right about one thing.

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Just Sayin

4:15 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

One can not plagiarize ones self, ya Guido.

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Guido McGinty

9:51 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

"One can not plagiarize ones self, ya Guido."

So Barry has two things going for him. He's not a plagiarist and his supporters are dim bulbs.

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Just Sayin

12:12 pm on Sunday, October 7, 2012

Guido... You accuse someone of plagiarizing their own words...and you think his followers are dim bulbs? That's a laugh.

Michael Ioffe

11:51 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012

It is so pity that we have more than one year of campaign and only 90 minutes of real conversation, in which maybe no more than 10 minutes of disclosure of differences between two candidates.

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McCloud

4:53 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Did you even need 10 minutes of disclosure to determine the differences between two candidates?

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John Fernandes

8:12 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Big Turd wants to fund his tax cut on the back of Big Bird. Mitt and Ann refuse to show their tax returns for 2005-2009, since their accountants said they paid about 14%, the only reason to hide those returns is the IRS amnesty for rich tax cheats with secret Swiss accounts. After the UBS whistle blower case the IRS let rich tax cheats "pay the fine" instead of trial for the felony they committed. Maybe they should be in the big house rather than the White House.

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Deadcatbounce

9:19 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

From mark steyn ... Will Big bird ever leave the government nest? The Corporation of Public Broadcasting receives nearly half-a-billion dollars a year from taxpayers, which it disburses to PBS stations, who, in turn, disburse it to Big Bird and Jim Lehrer. I don't know what Big Bird gets, but, according to Sen. Jim DeMint, the President of Sesame Workshop, Gary Knell, received in 2008 a salary of $956,513. In that sense, Big Bird and Sen. Harry Reid embody the same mystifying phenomenon: they've been in "public service" their entire lives and have somehow wound up as multimillionaires.
Mitt's decision to strap Big Bird to the roof of his station wagon and drive him to Canada has prompted two counter-arguments from Democrats: 1) half a billion dollars is a mere rounding error in the great sucking maw of the federal budget, so why bother? 2) everybody loves Sesame Street, so Mitt is making a catastrophic strategic error. On the latter point, whether or not everybody loves Sesame Street, everybody has seen it, and every American under 50 has been weaned on it. So far this century it's sold nigh on a billion bucks' worth of merchandising sales (that's popular toys such as the Subsidize-Me-Elmo doll). If Sesame Street is not commercially viable, then nothing is, and we should just cut to the chase and bail out everything.

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Deadcatbounce

9:21 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

And for the next debate, instead of a candidate slumped at the lectern like a muppet whose puppeteer has gone out for a smoke, maybe Elmo's guy could shove his arm up the back of the presidential suit.

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Deadcatbounce

9:23 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Yet, amidst the otherwise total wreckage of obma's performance, the Democrats seemed to think that Mitt's assault on Sesame Street was a misstep from whose tattered and ruined puppet-stuffing some hay is to be made. "WOW!!! No PBS!!! WTF how about cutting congress's stuff leave big bird alone," tweeted Whoopi Goldberg. Even the president mocked Romney for "finally getting tough on Big Bird" – not in the debate, of course, where such dazzling twinkle-toed repartee might have helped, but a mere 24 hours later, once the rapid-response team had directed his speechwriters to craft a line, fly it out to a campaign rally and load it into the prompter, he did deliver it without mishap.

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Deadcatbounce

9:25 am on Saturday, October 6, 2012

The small things are not unimportant – and not just because, when "small" is defined as anything under 11 figures, "small" is a big part of the problem. If Americans can't muster the will to make Big Bird leave the government nest, they certainly will never reform Medicare. Just before the debate in Denver, in the general backstage melée, a commentator pointed out Valerie Jarrett, who is officially "Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs," a vital position which certainly stimulates the luxury-length business-card industry. Not one in 100,000 Americans knows what she looks like, but she declines to take the risk of passing among the rude peasantry without the protection of a Secret Service detail. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has a private jet to fly him home from Washington every weekend.

Mara Meyer

1:04 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Did anyone listen to the substance of what was said? Eliminating entitlements and relegating governance to the states? School Choice, inititating marketing for a all public schools? Limiting tax deductions to a lump sum figure, of say $17,000 - offered as a cafeteria plan...come on folks the MATH doesn't add up!

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Guido McGinty

9:53 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

The math never adds up with these creatures. Best to limit their power and influence in our lives.

Mara Meyer

1:05 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Do you think the STATE OF ILLINOIS has the capability to GOVERN which benefits you get from healthcare? They can't handle what they do at the present.

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McCloud

1:15 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

What governing body has the capability?

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Abigail

1:23 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Face it, Dems, your guy flat out lost the debate. He didn't have his teleprompter and no ear bud to get his talking points from Axelrod. The Democrats would have done better if they had put an empty chair on stage with Romney.

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RB

2:32 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

I was open minded going into the debate. I expected Obama to tell the truth and me more motivated than he was. I hoped for Romney to tell the truth and expected him to perform well, as he did in many primary debates. Well, Obama told the truth and Romney lied though his teeth. He dismissed everything he's been saying about the $$5T tax cut, no coverage for Pre existing conditions etc. So, the winner in style: Romney. The winner in truthiness: clearly Mr. Obama.
Romney lies will catch up with him, in about 10 days. Enjoy the bounce.

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Just Sayin

3:58 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Just back from London...many Brits asked me if this election is as big a circus as it looks. My only response...you bet...the circus rolls into town every four years and this year...Mitt Romney (BTW... they call him Twit) is the star biggest clown. They all laughed in agreement.
Just watched the debate this morning. Twit was as polished as they get. And why not...his handlers have been grooming and massaging him for weeks now. So polished and empty... and skillful of lying. He is a shoe in for President of Stepford. Barack was capable of much more...makes one wonder if this was not a trap set on the Romster. I mean...the Twit must have thought something was up. Who wouldn't. Well...I hope it haunts the Romster and his club in the quiet hours. Looking forward to 'The Greatest Show on Earth' in rings 2 and 3 coming soon.

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Just Sayin

4:04 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012

Abigail...only empty heads see empty chairs. Face it, Ab, you are a dunce.

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