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Poll: Should Chicago Have a Casino?

Illinois lawmakers are again looking to expand gambling options in Illinois.

 

 

Illinois lawmakers are considering plans to add more casinos as the state continues to grapple with budget woes.

The latest proposals would place casinos in Danville, Rockford and Waukegan. Another proposal would allow for slot machines to be operated at race tracks like Arlington Park, the Alton Daily News reported. The bills are sponsored by Terry Link (D-Waukegan) in the Senate and Lou Lang (D-Skokie) in the House.

Gov. Pat Quinn has called the legislation to, once again, expand gambling in Illinois "a distraction."

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has been pushing for a Chicago casino. A Chicago casino is something that officials in the city long have sought. As far back at 1993, Mayor Daley proposed an $800 million development that would have included five gambling boats on the Chicago River.

Critics of gambling expansion say that the are tremendous societal costs related to gambling addiction. A Chicago casino also could take business away from other area casinos in Illinois. Others point out that Illinois' state budget hasn't improved in the years since riverboat casinos first were approved in 1991 and that casino revenue tends to not keep pace with inflation.

"It's only short term. It's really not good fiscal policy," The Christian Sciene Monitor quoted Ralph Martire, executive director of the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability in May 2011.

Proponents of a Chicago casino argue that a casino in the city would attract tourists and convention goers, drawing money from outside of the state unlike many of the downstate and suburban casinos.

  • Poll: Should Chicago Have A Casino?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes. It will draw tourists and revenue from out-of-state residents.
        221 (54%)
    • No. It will take away from other area casinos and the societal costs are high.
        184 (45%)
    Total votes: 405
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Gov. Pat Quinn, Illinois budget, Illinois gambling, Riverboat Casino, and chicago casino

John Miller

8:35 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

What difference does it make what the proles want? The Dem machine will do what it wants!

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Willie Wilmette

8:41 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

No, Wilmette should get the next casino.

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Jose

9:45 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

CHICAGO ALREADY HAVE A CASINO OR 2 ?? WHY DO THEY WANT MORE ??? WAUKEGAN SHOULD GET ONE... PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF GOING TO MILWAUKEE---TO WISCONSIN DELLS----TO CHICAGO---AND TO OTHER CITIES TO GAMBLE...

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Bob Stock

3:11 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

I don't believe that Chicago has any casinos at all.

Jim

10:04 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Using a socially and morally destructive activity to get more money from the community to spend and waste on functions which should have been managed better in the past makes the problem worse, not better. But the pols don't care and they just want the money and to stay in office. By the time the noxious effects occur, they will be long gone with their fat pensions and a "who me?" look on their faces. Who will count how many divorces, crimes and other social ills will come from gambling everywhere and when the novelty wears off, what will be next?

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Richard Schulte

3:05 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Gambing is destructive in any form. If you recall, gambling is what started this whole economic mess we're in right now. Not only should Illinois not allow any more casinos to be built, Illinois should abolish its lottery.

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Jose

7:25 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

many people are going to gamble , so why not keep the money close to home...

annie

10:43 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

forget chicago & wilmette. put one in Kenilworth!

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Millie

10:44 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Should of had one long time ago. Navy Pier would have been good location. Need some OTB locations. Race Track

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Local

11:23 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

This has got to be the worst idea they could come up with! Trying to solve our states money problems by building more casinos?!? Are you daft?? Encouraging people who are already broke, to donate more of they're hard earned money via gambling, unbelievable!! Most people who frequent these donation stations cannot afford to loose money....and they do LOOSE MONEY! Then you watch, a couple years down the road they will tell us that they "have to" raise our taxes, to pay for state funded gambling addiction programs. It proves that politicians could care less about anything but increasing "revenue", without cutting the waste n fraud.

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irving drobny

11:24 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

navy pier would be a natural place for a casino. it would attract mostly tourists who visit downtown & bring people into the downtown-michigan shopping areas. good for merchants, good for sales tax revenue, both city & state, and the suburban crowd would still have the option of elgin, des plaines, aurora & joliet. so whats so bad? just asking.....

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marco sangria

11:39 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

put it in LAke bluff. it would be so nice to walk to the casino!

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Jose

7:36 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

PUT IT IN WAUKEGAN, EASY EXCESS FROM THE NORTH---FROM THE SOUTH...RIGHT NEXT TO 43--41--94..BETWEEN WAUKEGAN AND GURNEE

Local

11:42 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012

What's so bad....seriously? I know a couple people (they wouldn't admit it) that are gambling addicts. They can't wait for payday, so they can hit the casino. Every Friday night it's the same story, "It's my night, I feel lucky" and every Saturday morning it's the same reality, lost a ton of $$ they can't afford to loose.

And honestly I have ZERO faith that politicians and a political system, that have allowed us to get so deep in debt, deserve any more money, they'll only squander it on the politically connected and pet projects!

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J.Lyn

12:04 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

If it's revenue everyone is after to bail out city and state financial woes... legalize
marijuana. That way everyone who spends money will at least get a little something
in return...be it pain relief or recreational pleasure. Gambling is a losing proposition
for individuals.

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Pmadman

12:58 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

I am with you J. Lyn Legalize marjuana, pack them up like cigaretts, and then tax them at a rate higher than cigaretts. Perhaps it would help slow down the street gangs, and the mexican maffia from selling them. Then the police could focus their attention on other crime.

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David Greenberg

6:08 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Taxing them higher than cigarettes will only serve to create a black market, as the high taxes on cigarettes has already done.

Reasonable taxes, reasonable regulation (i.e., no driving while stoned, no under 18 sales), and stop arresting people for ingesting or smoking a plant.

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Jose

7:32 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

MARIJUANA ??? I FAVOR LEGALIZING POT, WHY ?? PEOPLE WHO SMOKE POT ARE GOING TO BUY IT , LEGAL --OR--NOT...LEGALIZE IT AND TAX IT....IF WE DID THAT ? EVERY STATES DEBT WILL BE GONE AND THE MEXICANS CARTELS---GANGS WILL BE OUT OF BUSINESS...ALSO GROW THE POT IN THE U.S. ONLY SO THE STATES CAN REGULATED..

J.Lyn

12:27 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

BTW...gambling has been added to the DSM as a debilitating psychological addiction!

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MS

2:56 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

The quality at beautiful Arlington Park International Racetrack has declined relative to other tracks in the country that receive revenue from slots. In addition, the size of the fields has been smaller further reducing the overall quality and attractiveness of the racetrack for owners and trainers out of state. As this continues racing in Illinois will continue to decline, which will eventually result in fewer jobs and a lower tax base. In order to compete against tracks in other states Arlington needs slots. Slots will bring our racing back to world class levels, dramatically increase employment, and increase the tax base. It will also increase tourism as people travel here from all over to watch and participate in our world class racing.

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David Greenberg

6:10 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Last time I was at the track - it was about 17 years ago during some corporate outing. At the time, they had the local races, and a bunch of races relayed via video. This was pre-internet too, so I can only imagine that the need to travel to bet on or watch a horse race is even lower now.

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MS

7:57 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

David, the "need" to go to a concert or a ballgame is diminished with the advent of the internet, but people still like to attend live events. Witness the amount of people who attended the Preakness this past weekend - 121,300 even though people could place wagers and watch on the internet. Imagine if the Arlington Million purse was 2 million and the Beverly D was over a million. That day or racing alone, if done right could bring in huge numbers. Not to mention the amount of people who would attend on weekends with a competitive slate of racing.

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David Greenberg

9:43 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

To some extent, sure, people like to attend live events. But as the disadvantages of doing so increase, the interest wanes. Unfortunately, I don't see any of the disadvantages decreasing anytime too soon. Some disadvantages:

* Travel headaches-traffic, tolls, high gas prices, parking costs OR public transportation headaches such as high fares, undesirable elements causing problems, vehicles that aren't on time or break down, "security theater" delays, etc.

* Ticket costs:TicketMaster (or LiveNation) fees, surcharges, inability to get the tickets one wants for a particular day, having to deal with StubHub users

* Long lines:To get in, to leave. To go to the restroom. To get food.

* Food prices:High. Ridiculously high because every entity has their fingers in the pie and wants a cut of what's in your wallet.

* Restrooms-run the gamut from super clean, to well, let's just not talk about that giant trough...

* Crime: Pick pockets, thugs, panhandlers, street solicitors, thieves, gang bangers...

* Taxes: On tickets, soda, polystyrene carry-out items, etc.

But for the sake of argument, let's assume that people will set aside these disadvantages for now and attend. That's great. What's it do for the local area or Governmental bodies that are expected to provide police/fire and infrastructure. Do they make money on the deal, or do they end up financing it for the venue owners as is so often the case? If these venues can't stand on their own, let them close.

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MS

8:49 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

David, the attendance at this past weekend's Preakness prove that people are willing to overlook all of those factors as much now as ever. Arlington can have that excitement. And yes, it will far more than pay for the small adjustment in added services from police, fire etc. It just needs to ability to compete at the level of other tracks that are permitted to have slots.
By the way, you seem to be a small government kind of guy. So am I. This is a case of smaller government being necessary. Let them get out of the way and allow Arlington to shape their revenue as they feel is best, which in this case is increased gaming. It's a win-win.

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David Greenberg

4:21 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Perhaps, perhaps not. As those disadvantages grow, people are less and less apt to ignore them. However, the Preakness event seems to be more of a one-off situation, i.e., it's not happening every weekend.

Where are the other tracks that are permitted to have slot machines located? In Illinois or not?

Personally, I could care less if someone wants to gamble - that's generally their business, and unless it's having an effect on something funded by the government, the Government ought to keep their nose out of it. But those effects are varied: Criminal activity as a direct (people stealing to fund their gambling habit) or indirect (people robbing cars in the casino parking lot)result of the gambling, societal costs (people not feeding their kids because of their gambling habit - so they then go on welfare or food stamps - funded by the rest of us), quality of life (not everyone may want to live right next to a casino or have to deal with the traffic/public crazies caused by it). The games definitely need to be fair - otherwise you have a whole different slew of issues that come up.

So a certain amount of governmental regulation is likely always going to be needed when we're talking about gambling.

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David Greenberg

4:26 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

As for Arlington - let's assume that there's no other racetracks in IL with slot machines, and the whole reason for their declining revenues is because horse racing just isn't that attractive to people any longer. So we bring in Slot Machines to Arlington as an attractant - what if the horse racing continues to decline? Do we then end up with a de facto casino full of slot machines at Arlington and no horses? What happens in that scenario?

If they want to give up on the horse racing and have a slot machine hall, ok fine - let's have that conversation. Maybe that's something the surrounding community is willing to have, maybe not. Maybe the Racetrack gets replaced by something else entirely...

But it seems to me that they're suffering from a declining business model, and they're trying to prop it up (and perhaps eventually replace it) with slot machines...

As for small government - I'm in favor of right-sizing the government so it takes care of the "gotta haves", and leaves the nice-to-haves to the private sector.

John Smickles

4:26 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Do you really want to have this kind of community? I don't think so. That's all I have to say.

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LOU PLATEK

5:18 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

HELLO;
a casino...in Chicago ..is very good idea.
the MOST important issue is the INTEGRITY of the GAMING ,,,itself!
the role of the ILLINOIS GAMING BOARD is to keep the 'industry' ...it's image as 'fair' and as entertainment.

revenue from casino(s) do not solve ILLINOIS' budget woes...
a casino could be a JEWEL in the Chicago sky-line!!
an attraction for visitors

strict monitoring of gaming revenue and gaming integrity provides the proper image
social
moral issues
are the 'standard' complaint

higher taxes are much worse to our area ....residents who are the 'back-bone' need some 'relief'
the proposed casino(s) must offer that sort of help.

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Jose

7:41 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

A CASINO IN CHICAGO ?? MANY PEOPLE WON'T GO TO CHICAGO..MANY ARE AFRAID TO EVEN DRIVE TO CHICAGO...I'M A U.S. MARINE AND I WON'T DRIVE TO CHICAGO ....I ONLY DRIVE TO A CUBS GAME...
WENT TO CHICAGO FOOD FEST I WAS STOPPED AND ASK FOR MONEY ABOUT 5 TIMES AND I TOOK THE TRAIN TO AVOID DRIVING AND GETTING LOST....THERE MANY CASINOS CLOSE TO CHICAGO, BUT NO CASINOS AROUND GURNEE AREA.

brian H

5:27 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

We are losing millions of dollars to Indiana, wisconsin etc. & have so much more to offer as a city then those destinations.

If you prefer not to gamble then don't but why should we not offer it to those who want it.

People complain about increased gambling ,yet every liquor, convenient store, grocery store, liquor store etc. has lotto, little lotto, mega millions, daily lotto, & so many scratch off games that it takes up a whole wall....what is the difference??

Wake up Illinois!!!

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David Greenberg

6:13 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

I'd argue that it has less to do with casinos, and more to do with the fact that we have insanely high taxes, and crime driven by the fact that the criminals know they have de facto concealed carry, while the law abiding citizens of this once Great State go essentially defenseless.

You want businesses and individuals to locate here? Solve the above. You want tourists to come here? Solve the above so someone will want to run a business here and hire people...

Maggie

5:28 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Up to Chicago if it has a casino or not....

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David Greenberg

6:15 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Not really. It has a great ripple effect on surrounding areas - this is rightly something that is handled by the State and not the City. Besides, IF a casino were to be located in Chicago, would you trust the City of Chicago to police its own gaming? HA! I'd hardly trust our broke State to be up to the job, but chances are it'd be somewhat better than the fox guarding the henhouse...

RB

7:25 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

I think Rahm is doing a good job with huge Issues ahead of him. If a Casino helps, and he thinks it does....then, I'm for it. Now, can it get through the Legislature without being poisoned by greed and graft? Ha!

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Life is Good

8:40 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Rahm is nothing but an Obama prodigy that can't think for himself.

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Palatine Resident

10:02 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

No it is not a good idea at all. Cook County can not handle the money that comes in now. All it will create is for more crooks to dip into the pot and screw us. The Lottery is suppose to go to the schools............if that is so then why does the schools have to cut back in activities for the kids now. This state nor county hasnt a clue how to handle money.......they only know how to take the money!!! NO CASINO for CHICAGO!!!!!!!!

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Craig Apelbaum

10:25 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012

Yes. Chicago, Illinois should have casinos because it brings money into ytheir economy.

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Jose

7:48 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

HOW ABOUT A CASINO FOR CHICAGO AND ONE FOR WAUKEGAN...I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY NO IS A BAD IDEA...DO YOU WANT YOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO CONTINUE TO GO UP ???

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David Greenberg

4:28 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

If you want your property taxes to go down, then the individual taxing bodies need to learn how to SPEND LESS, DO LESS, OFFER LESS. Focus on the "gotta have's", cut those costs as much as possible, forget the rest. Let the private sector deal with the "nice to haves".

A casino isn't going to solve the problem of property taxes. We were sold a similar story when Illinois started the Lottery - it's solve all our educational funding problems, blah blah blah. We've seen how well that's worked out *cough* NOT! *cough*.

Earl Weiss

7:15 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

Lets keep sending Chicago people away to spend their money, and get jobs everywhere else. Let Indiana and the burbs get all the Chicago money and jobs they can. Keep raisng Chicago taxes to raise revenue and Chase more people and businesses away to friendlier tax areas. Chigao even has a Minority and Women usiness owner set aside that sends lots of buisness outside the city. No preference for Chicago buisness. Chicag needs to be less crowded, less business, morte depressed real estate prices. Yep, encouraging people, jobs and business to leave is a great thing.

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Jose

7:46 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

RIGHT NOW PEOPLE FROM KENOSHA------GURNEE-----AREAS GO TO MILWAUKEE--WISCONSIN CASINO'S ...TO JOLIET CASINO'S ..BUT IF WE HAD A CASINO IN THE WAUKEGAN---GURNEE AREA THE MONEY WOULD STAY HERE.

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Bonnie Quirke

11:24 am on Monday, May 21, 2012

Do $ make it right? Should we jump off a roof just because some people do? Gambling is not good for families or individuals.

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Tony Kovacs

12:53 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

I have nothing against casinos per se. Sure some people are irresponsible gamblers as some people eat too many donuts. We can't regulate all behavior. Casinos are just a form of entertainment when used properly and do generate revenues for the state.. But we must consider some stategies behind casino placement. We can't oversaturate the market because some casinos may not survive. That is why there is government regulation. A Chicago casino would hurt our Joliet, Aurora, Elgin casinos as did the Des Plaines one and the first three cities got casinos to help their economies. They need Chicago customers. Chicago does not need one for its economy. So we must evaluate carefully as to placement. And maybe some Chicago gamblers don't go to the suburbs anyway but would go to Chicago casino. As to slots at the tracks, probably a good idea as that will help the struggling racing industry to survive. Let's keep "morality" out of this and investigate business strategy.

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Bonnie Quirke

1:03 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Does economy trump morality?

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MS

1:14 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Should one's morality dictate others? What happened to choice and freedom?

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Earl Weiss

2:24 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

If you feel gambling is immoral, that's fine with me, so long as you don't try to impose your feelings on me and others who do not share in that feeling.

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David Greenberg

4:30 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Gambling isn't immoral per se. Some of the side effects of it may be, but with few exceptions, it's not really the government's business.

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jim

4:43 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Bonnie if gambling isa morality issue. WHY DO CHURCHES DO IT?

Bonnie Quirke

1:17 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Are You Your brothers keeper, Matt? Do you believe in the common good?

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MS

1:56 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Bonnie, I believe in personal freedom. I own me and you own you. One person's "good" is another person's evil. When we start legislating each others' "good" that's when we run into problems.

Bonnie Quirke

2:44 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

So-- Let's see if I feel killng is not ok but you feel it is ok- is it ok? Let's be honest we all know there are problems with gambling. If I read you right that is ok with you because of choice and freedom- right.

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MS

3:06 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

No, killing infringes on the rights of others. I own me and you own you. Killing takes that ownership away. I believe in the whole life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness thing. Now tell where my right to gamble my own money infringes on your rights stated above.

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Earl Weiss

3:38 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

I think you are on the right track. If you are a Vegan, you should not be allowed to ban stores from selling meat, Fish and Fowl. See how extreme arguments easily fail?

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David Greenberg

4:34 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012

Bonnie, this is a specious argument and you know it. Killing does not equal gambling - two completely different issues as Matt has said. If someone wants to gamble, let them. If they're harming their family or kids - I think the government should have something to say about it because those persons haven't made the choice to gamble away their lives. But if they're on their own - big whoop. So long as they're not asking for governmental healthcare, food, or assistance - we should stay out of their decision. If some group doesn't agree with that position, then they're perfectly free to create a foundation, and offer assistance to those they consider in need of it - but they can fund that foundation with their own or solicited donations and leave the rest of us out of it.

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