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Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) on Tuesday unveiled a new push to enact a national voter ID law ahead of the 2012 elections. His proposed Federal Elections Integrity Act would require voters to present a government-issued photo ID in order to vote in federal elections.  “Current federal law requires those voting in federal elections to be American citizens,” Walsh said in a press release.  "We have seen plenty of examples of people lying about who they are, and convicted felons, dead people, and illegal immigrants voting. This bill is just common sense," he added. "The American people understand that it makes no sense that a photo ID is required to get a library card or board an airplane, but not required to do something as sacred as voting."

 

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Bob Stock

12:39 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Walsh, a representative of no one but himself. I have stated previously, I will work with every fiber of my being to keep him from getting elected to any office of public trust.

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Steinar Andersen

7:12 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

And I will nullify that vote.... every election.

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Dan Arenov

4:11 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

i will nullify that vote before Steiner gets a chance.. Steiner's will put Walsh in the '+' column.

Why are people who are otherwise reasonable about the necessity for an i.d. card, even in the most mundane situations, against using one to prove who you are when voting in elections?

Here's an anecdote from a recent Republican primary.. A guy enters the polling place. He walks up to a table where an old man is organizing his file cards and voter roster, etc.. the voter asks "is this where the dead people vote"? and without looking up or skipping a beat, the poll workers says "Democratic primary is down the street".

McCloud

2:26 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Walsh speaks directly and on point that frankly our future as a country is in peril, the spending must stop. Already having a national debt increased 5 trillion is the last 3.5 years to a whopping 16 trillion, the unfunded liability for medicate approaches 125 trillion in less than 20 years. These types of numbers used to be reserved for astronomers. His opposition can only slander him with labels that make no sense.

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RB

2:50 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Why doesnt he do something for his district instead of grandstanding about a problem that does not exist. Voter supression is next in thelong list of rights the Tea Baggers want to take away from anyone that does not look like them. He is a Tea Bagger so full of himself, he forgets to pay child support. He's the one that should not be allowed to vote. An IQ test in order to vote is unconstitutional, but how about one to run for Congress? Take a picture, that District will be forgetting him really soon.
By the way McCloud, your 'pal' here. Bush put the Medicare drug plan in and failed to fund it! That's why Medicare is crapping out so soon, your hero left us another gift that just keep's on giving. So far you're on the wrong side of just about everything.

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RB

2:51 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

If the Tea Baggers and Republicans put half the energy into revoking gun permits that they put in to suppressing voters, they might actually get something done.

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McCloud

2:54 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Suppressing voters How does that work?

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RB

6:37 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

McCloud You can read some news about what they are doing in Florida. A WW2 veteran was removed from the rolls because of not having a drivers license (he's in his 90's) and was born in Brooklyn. The local election boards (Republican and Democratic) are screaming about the unfair approach of the blanket removals being instigated at the Republican State level. Voter fraud is minimal. It's a tactic to suppress minority voting.
You 'pal' state the insults by calling liberals stupid. There are many viewpoints and you should be able to read them without coming back with bully type postings. Hope that answers your questions about voter suppression. I'm sure Mr. Schulte (wrapped in a Confederate flag) will have further input since it involves his new Residnce of Florida. Higher gun crime than Illinois by the way.

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Nightcrawler

12:57 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

RB, I'd love you to cite the source of yours that "voter fraud is minimal," especially in some areas of Florida, as you cited.

McCloud

3:08 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Do you even bother to engage your brain? Responses like yours are just refabricated garbage that never makes a point, just nonsensical political empty thoughts. With your mode of thought, I guess we need to add on another 5 trillion and insult anyone who disagrees.

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J.C.

3:45 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

The League of Women Voters and ACLU are having a program about voter ID on Thurs., June 21, 7:00pm at Round Lake Beach Cultural and Civic Center. People should get the facts about what is going on and be aware of their VOTING RIGHTS.

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Abigail

5:21 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Both of those organizations lean towards the left, so I can imagine exactly what they will present to the public.

The "facts" are that people should be required to show ID to vote. Since most of those people critics claim will be disenfranchised if forced to show ID are low income individuals, let me remind all of you that individuals cannot get food stamps without an ID, so it seems to me that asking for ID from a person voting is a no-brainer.

Maybe I should attend to ask the ACLU if they can force the government to stop requiring ID for people signing up for food stamps.

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RB

6:46 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Abigail, there are many senior citizens without valid ID. My mother for instance before passing was able to vote although she had not driven for years. Assuming low income people are all on public aid also shows your true colors. Voter suppression is a tactic of the right to try to suppress the minority vote. Voter fraud stats show low fraud. It's a red herring of the right. Right up Joe Walsh's alley, a reason for another ranting News Conference. This country has an African American President, will have a majority of Hispanics by 2050 and the white race is becoming less and less enfluential. I would guess that bothers much of the right wing, but as the attrition catches up, the future will be much different in diversity. Oops there's that dirty word. D.I.V.E.R.S.T.Y! I love it!

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Nightcrawler

12:59 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

You are 100 percent correct, Abigail. Perhaps people have forgotten about how those organizations claimed to have a "neutral" moderator at the last congressional debate with Walsh and Bean, only to later have me (yes, it was me) expose the fact she was an Obama Organizing for America campaign leader.

That information wound up going viral online.

McCloud

4:01 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I'm sure, based on the people who are sponsoring it. They might wish to explore the need for photo id for marriage licenses, buying liquor, checking into a hotel, renting a car, cashing a check, picking up your mail, applying for a job, after all, if you say you are someone, it is racist to think you are not.

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Sandra Sims

4:19 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

There is no evidence of any kind of widespread voter fraud. There has, however, been many instances of voter suppression, and election fraud, all perpretrated by the Repukes. Surprise, surprise.

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Gary

4:36 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

No voter fraud? Fantastic! Then putting in place a law requiring positive identification of each voter will have absolutely no effect on the results of the election, and none of us has any reason to be upset with this law.

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Gary

4:37 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Sandra,
Would you like to supply evidence of voter suppression?

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RB

6:52 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Gary, the problem for Americans that don't have ID is the hoops they have to go through to get one. Time off work, transportation issues, education issues (yes uneducated can vote, and post on this board too), senior citizens in nursing homes as an example, don't necessarily have ID. It's not the requirement, it's the method of complying at the last minute that is tripping people up and the basis for the Right Wing tactic. Some states allow a FOID card as ID but not a social security check stub or even discharge papers. The 'righter' the ID the more likely its on the approved list. But you probably already knew that.

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Nightcrawler

1:01 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Sandra, I love how it always has to be an insult with the liberals like yourself. Repukes? Grow up. This coming from someone who votes for people from several different parties each election.

More insults. Surprise surprise, to paraphrase Sandra's post.

McCloud

4:26 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

How could there be any evidence Einstein? Busloads of homeless people are shipped into Madison in white vans, no problem here. I wonder who they all voted for.

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Abigail

5:23 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Gary, YES! Then a voter ID law should NOT BE A PROBLEM!! Good point!!

Heck, isn't the plan for the government to pay for the IDs for those who cannot afford one?? Then there shouldn't be a problem!!

AMEN!!

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Abigail

5:24 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Ok, Sandra, now you have two people asking for evidence of voter suppression.

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Sandra Sims

5:47 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Just in the WI recall, there were robocalls going out telling people if they had signed the petition to have Walker recalled, then they didn't have to vote. There have been many cases of robocalls telling people the election is on a different date, that their polling place has changed, that the election has already been won, no need to vote. Several Republicans have gone to prison for stuff like this. Google it yourselves, I'm not your assistant.

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Abigail

5:54 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Prove it. And prove who made the robocalls while you're at it. Don't make accusations you cannot backup. Please prove each and every statement. If you are going to make statements like this, you have to be able to prove it.

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Steinar Andersen

6:12 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Sandra, we don't need to google to affirm your statements (and making us affirm your allegations). That is taking the easy way out. You are the one making the statement, please provide the evidence (including sourcing). I'll provide you an example:

Regarding intimidation (New Black Panther Party): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party_voter_intimidation_case

Regarding intimidation (Acorn):
http://www.lvrj.com/news/judge-fines-acorn-5-000-for-voter-registration-scheme-127467598.html

As for your allegation of Republican voter "suppression".... you are welcome to give it your best shot to prove. The cases the Democratic Party try to put forth are when the Republican Party tries to do what it can to push for the elimination of voter fraud (especially after Acorn's efforts in 2008).

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Steinar Andersen

6:13 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Which Republican has gone to prison (and I'll make this easy..... all you have to do is find a couple of names).

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Nightcrawler

1:02 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

If people are dumb enough to believe that nonsense Sandra, it's their own fault, and they are probably people who shouldn't be voting to begin with lol.

Sandra Sims

5:49 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Oh, and let's not forget the huge voter purge in Florida in 2000, where thousands of people who had the same names as felons got purged without notice, until they showed up to vote and were unable to. The same sort of BS they are trying to pull there again this year. Repukes don't seem to have much confidence in their ability to win fairly. Wonder why?

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Abigail

5:57 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

No, thankfully you're not my assistant because I would laid you off by now for making unsubstantiated statements. And when you do provide proof, please do so from an responsible and reliable source--i.e., not MoveOn.org or MediaMatters.

As for Florida, I know they are trying to get several thousands of dead voters off the voter rolls and have been blocked by the USAG (Holder's office).

Carl Brown

5:59 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

What a bunch of Imbecilic nonsense. It's obvious who wants voter suppression. Also nobody wants to talk about how George W. never put two wars in the budget because he said they didn't know what the cost would be after listening to his friend Wolfowitz who said the Iraq war would be over in two months paid for by all the oil profits. By the way, the U.S. did not win any of the oil contracts.

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Abigail

6:09 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

What???? How the heck did George W get into this discussion??? Carl, stay on topic!!!

Daniel Krudop

7:38 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Senator Dick Durbin has been very vocal against voter ID requirements. He suggests that they are mostly used to disenfranchise poor and minority voters.

I called his office to ask why the State of Illinois, without question a Democratically controlled State, wants to prevent poor and minority voters from voting early. Anyone who has voted early in Illinois is aware that government issued photo ID is required.

Anyone want to bet whether his staff member hung up on me?

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HM

7:45 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

How is requiring a simple state Id card voter suppression? In Illinois, they cost $20 and are good for 5 years. With no requirement for Id, I can easily go to my polling place, say I am someone I'm not ( I know plenty of people who never vote in my neighborhood, so it would not be difficult), make a reasonable attempt at signing their name, and vote for them. And I could do that in a number of local polling sites throughout election day. It would be that easy. While I believe most people are honest, I am sure this happens, especially in local races that are closley contested. A simple ID would eliminate the risk of unsavory characters doing such a thing. I have no desire to hinder anyone's abiltiy to vote, and I can not understand how, for 99% of the potential voting population, getting an ID is a big obstacle. Yes, you can find an exception for everything, but even dear old granny can get a ride to the Secy of State facility to get a state issued ID card.

And to Sandra - what proof do you have of the robocalls? People talk about this in every election, and of all of the annoying political calls I get, I have never once recieved a bogus call telling me an incorrect voting date, nor any other false information of that nature. I am not disputing your claim, but would like some evidence that it happened.

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Sean Daly

9:54 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

All of you morons asking for proof of voter suppression, right back at you - show me proof of voter fraud. Deadbeat dad Joe Walsh says he sees it all the time, yeah right. Show me the proof then.

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Steinar Andersen

10:11 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Ummmm, I did so already. Please scroll up and click on the links presented..........

I gave one example (for instance) of ACORN being fined $5,000.00 for fraud. If you want, I can look up even more (google skillz, I has 'em).............

McCloud

5:52 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

By asking voters to present a photo ID in order to receive a voter ballot makes too much sense. Slime like Dick Durbin would rather not, as that would reduce the white vans of homeless people who take the ballots of dead people.

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HM

6:13 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Sean Daly - It's not suppression to ask someone for ID. I don't feel discriminated against when the grocery store wants my license if I write a check. Do you think they should just take me at my word that I am the holder of the account? Is it suppression that people must have a social security card? There are laws regarding voting - you must be a citizen, and you must live in the precinct/district in which you vote. How is it suppression to ask that you prove who you are? There are laws surrounding the purchase of alcohol, and you have to prove you are over 21 to purchase it. Is that alcohol suppression? This whole conversation is just silly. It is not suppressing a segment of the population by asking for a driver's license or a state issued ID card. They are not cost prohibitive, so don't even give me that argument.

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RB

8:48 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

The worst crimes against Democracy are always the ones supposedly done under the law. Its wrong to supress the right to vote. This issue was settled in the 50's and 60's. Citizens have a right to vote. They dont have to pay a poll tax to do it. Republicans don't have a right to demand ID from Senior Citizens, the non-driving, the poor, those with Hispanic sounding names, Asian complexion or anyone else that makes them a little different than the WASPy, white bread Republican Party. When St. Ronald decided to go after the Southern Dixie Crat in Mississippi, he started the ball rolling. Without the South the Republicans would still be the party of Lincoln and he did not suppress votes, he worked to grant voting rights. The Republicans of today are so wrapped in ideology that they will do anything to force it upon other citizens. They are more into taking rights away than expanding rights and in the name of freedom? Baloney!

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HM

10:39 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

RB - providing ID is not discrimination. It should be required for ALL who wish to vote. I do not want someone who is not legally able to vote to be able to do so. I don't want someone underage buying liquor, so they should not have to show ID. Are you telling me that senior citizens, non-drivers, the poor, those with Hispanic sounding names, Asian complexions, or anyone esle that is not WASPy is being discriminated against when they need to show ID for alchohol purchases? How about when they want to cash a check? Or apply for a library card? What about if they need to get a social security card? What about if they need food stamps? I just do not see how this disenfranchises anyone. In order to use absentee ballots, you have to show ID. Is that discriminatory? There are legal rules defining who has the right to vote, and I can find no problem with requiring an Id to prove you are indeed a legal and registered voter.

Don't overlook the fact that in order to even register to vote, one must have a valid driver's license or state ID number, or the last 4 digits of their SSN along with a copy of a current and valid photo ID and a copy of a current utility bill / bank stmt / paycheck /other government document showning proof on name and address. All I am saying here is that, if they are able to register, then they have the applicable forms of ID to show at their local polling place.

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Nightcrawler

1:04 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

No one is suggesting these people don't have the right to vote. Simply that they should prove their identity before doing so, because so much fraud has gone on in the past.

McCloud

9:13 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Leave it to the liberal to turn this into a race thing. He knows the common sense reason why voters should be required to prove who they are, he just doesn't want any fake votes taken away, since they are all in his favor.

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Mikein algonquin

11:18 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Proof of identity for voting should be the law. Disenfranchisement of low income voters is just a scare tactic. I just looked this up and to apply for SNAP (food stamps) and Medicaid in Illinois, proof of identity is required. If they have to show proof if ID for these benefits, they already have proof of ID that should be acceptable for voting.

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Louis G. Atsaves

11:40 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

What floors me about the arguments against a photograph ID as being "voter suppression" is that here in Democratic controlled Illinois, in order to early vote, YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE A VOTER ID! By statute, introduced by Democrats and supported by Democrats!

And in the same breath Democrats accuse Republicans of voter suppression for demanding photo ID's in polling places!

Talk about babbling out of both sides of your mouths!

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Louis G. Atsaves

11:41 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Oops. I meant you had to produce a PHOTO ID while early voting. Sorry about that!

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Bucephalus

11:45 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

There already is an identity check to vote. When a voter comes to get his or her ballot, the application for a ballot has their signature on it. Each person is then required to sign their ballot and the judge at that station verifies that the signatures match.

I als think it is very interesting that Rep. Walsh used the term "seen plenty of examples" when he then didn't provide a single one. How many reports have debunked that myth?
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/section/category/allegations_of_voter_fraud
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-voter-fraud-fact-check-20120605,0,4982972.story
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/

But who wants ugly facts to color their opinions?

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HM

12:41 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Bucephalus - matching signatures is far from fullproof. My signature is often times not the same. I have still not been given one example of how requiring an ID disenfranchises anyone. ID is required to register to vote, so are you saying that the registration process, which has been in place for years and years, is discriminatory?

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Nightcrawler

1:09 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Matching signatures is far from foolproof, especially when there's an 80 year old election judge straining to look at your signature, as happened to me last election. She then freaked out because I didn't dot an "i" in my signature the same way I did on my registration card I had made years earlier. She then refused to let mer cast a ballott until I dotted the "i" as it was in my original. I offered to show my ID, she refused.

That, folks, is how voter fraud can and does easily takes place, no matter how widespread it is or isn't. Had she just asked for my ID, the problem would've been solved. Instead the woman was encouraging me to duplicate the original signature so I could vote.

Yes, this happened.

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RB

1:38 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

HM, Missouri law to no Eliminate mail in absentee ballots from military. Colorado law ordering no ballots be sent to active duty troops if they did not vote in 2010. In Florida the purge continues, and active duty troops will to know they were purged (too late to appeal) until they attempt to vote. An executive order signed by President Reagan puts the Secretary of defense in control of Voting rights within the DOD...not some tea bagger. So, that's just a few examples of disenfranchising active duty troops. Veterans are being disenfranchised too. A 91 year old WW 2 vet born in Brooklyn USA was removed in the purge in Florida. Efforts to impede the right of our military to vote (active and veterans) is just wrong. They fought for a core principal- our right to vote.

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HM

2:21 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

RB - how does requiring an ID disenfranchise anyone?

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Bucephalus

3:30 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Because it is not a legal requirement to have a state ID. Yet voting is a legal right. You are making the right of a citizen contingent upon the procurement of an item not required of people.

You are now demanding the acquisition of an item, unrelated to the act and not mandatory to have, to carry out an existing legal right. It is no different of a requirement than if voting required everyone to have an iPhone.

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HM

7:23 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Bucephalus, you already have to have ID in order to register to vote. Showing ID at the poll is no more burdensome.

Resident 225

12:53 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

If you have to show proof to register to vote why do you have to show a photo id to vote? You've already registered so why should you have to do this every time you vote? Using many of the examples listed in above posts you only have to show your ID once to cash the check, get the food stamps, etc. So, once should be enough for voting. As Bucephalus stated the election judge checks your signature when you vote. I think this is a lot of "sky is falling" rhetoric from Walsh with very little substance.

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Louis G. Atsaves

1:02 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

As a long time poll watcher, I've seen signatures change with time and at times when a voter signs for his ballot, his signature looks different. Photographs seem better and would make the life of election judges a lot easier.

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Nightcrawler

1:10 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Umm, maybe to make sure the person voting is the same one who registered, since all they ask for is your name and address now? See my other post above your last one, too, Resident 225. Because that actually happened to me last election.

Had I for any reason not been who I claimed I was that day, that election judge would have been encouraging me to commit election fraud by asking me to match my signature more closely to the original.

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HM

2:24 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Resident - how does the elderly poll watcher know I am "HM". As I mentioned earlier - I know many folks in my neighborhood who do not vote. As it is today, I can go to the polls, say i am "Resident 225", make a good attempt to copy your signature (becasue it on the form we sign), and vote in your place. With no requirement to show ID, what will stop anyone from doing that?

With your logic, nex time I try to write a check at Jewel, I could say hey, my name is on that check - I already proved to the bank who I was, so why do you need a photo id to cash it?

McCloud

2:59 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

The libs prefer to smear guys like Walsh, so they can continue picking homeless people up in white vans to ask for dead people's ballots. Its been going on for years, in cooperation with Acorn registration. They call him extreme, while they try to stop us from starting our cars.

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Bucephalus

3:32 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Actually I heard a story where the Palatine Township Republicans drove around in a black van claiming to be from the FBI on election day. They drove around through all the high-turnount liberal areas.

My story has as much factual backing as McCloud's paranoid rants. But who cares for proof when you can just spout out random stories and pretend that they are facts?

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Anne

11:30 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

The validity of McCloud is apparent when his source is the debunked Breitbart. To simply quote the ravings of a parnoid is laughable at best...unfortunately it is sad that there are some who don't take the time to find out ALL the facts because half-truths are still lies...typical of the party of the Elephant.

Bucephalus

3:26 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Nobody has actually yet disputed the numerous sources I cited. Nobody has actually shown any voter fraud that requires these "protections" to be put into place.

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Bucephalus

3:41 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Wow, one case where the person was trying to smear a third party. In any case, there was no actual voter fraud there. The poll worker would still have verified the signature.

And even if it had happened, you would have found one instance. One. Uno. Out of how many voters each year? As my links stated, Florida, in the 12 years since 2000 has had looked at a whopping total of 178 alleged cases. Right now, this hotbed of fraud is investigating three voter registration issues, NONE pertaining to actual voter fraud.

The best thing they can do is to make up voter fraud rather than deal with the facts that show that it just plain doesn't happen.

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Bucephalus

3:43 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Seriously? That's your "smoking gun?" None of that was actually about voter fraud. It helps to read articles before you post them.

Apparently get out the vote efforts are criminal in your paranoid world. Ok dude. Whatever.

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Anne

11:27 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

citing the half-truth nit-wit breitbart isn't a reliable source. You have to be able to tell the WHOLE story not the one that makes you look good. Karma has already taken care of Breitbart and his half truths.....try again.

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Bucephalus

4:04 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Case not closed, dude.

Maybe if you say it and click your ruby red slippers together, it'll happen. But until then, facts rule reality, delusions rule your world.

Richard Heller

11:02 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Let me understand this. We already have voters registration cards (I have one in my wallet I use every election). Now, we should carry a second voters ID card. And, exactly how will this shrink government?

If there is a problem with the current voters registration system, why not fix what we have instead of creating a whole new bureaucracy? What am I missing?

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HM

7:21 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Richard, excellent point! Our state government must go through the process of issueing a voter registration card that is, essentially, meaningless. No one is allowed ot ask for your voter registration card, so I don't know why the state goes through the trouble or expense to even print them. No ID of any form is allowed to be asked for at the polls. That is the crazy thing here. One must show proof if identity to register to vote (so if you are registered, you already HAVE that ID, or proof of who you are, which means you could bring it to the polling place), and we registered voters are issued voters registration cards. However, it is against the law to show such ID, or for a polling monitor to ask for such ID. So, anyone can go to your polling place, claim to be you (or anyone else registered in your precint), and vote as often as they can get away with it.

On a side note, in order to register, at the very minimum, all you really need is a current utility bill that shows an address, with no real proof that is is indeed YOUR utility bill.

I don't think a whole new bureaucracy needs to be created. There is nothing difficult or costly in asking "may I please see your ID?" Require ID to be shown at the polls so it is truly a one person - one vote system where the voter must prove they are eligible to vote. I simply do not see the problem with this.

Anne

11:24 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

I am astonsihed that anyone with a brain could even take Joe Walsh seriously, he married a woman had children with her then divorced her and won't support either her or their children....FAMILY VALUES? This is a man that can't keep his own life in order; he is nothing more then a sperm donor who disrespects women and children and would have them starve.

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McCloud

6:38 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Let me understand this, you have a brain yet cannot think. Smear Joe Walsh since he destroys liberals on common sense, which wins every time. This way we can keep the white vans full of homeless people voting for our unsustainable fraud entitlements.

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McCloud

7:12 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Boy, I just read Anne's post, sounds like she is a peach. Something very wrong with people these days, Anne certainly exposes this diabolical outlook.

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Anne

7:24 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Yea, that's right I am a "Peach" but who in their right mind would support a man who is fiscally irresponsible with his own persnoal life, oh yea that is the party of the elephant and their "compassionate conservatism and family values" Joe Walsh owes more than $100,000 in child support from court papers filed last December, he can't pay is own bills....nice....
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/6720892-418/tea-party-rep.-joe-walsh-sued-for-100000-in-child-support

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Anne

7:32 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Joe Walsh is no fiscal conservative he is just a politician who uses his position for political gain. He has a long extensive history of not paying his bills or leaving them for others (that would be the Taxpayers of Illinois) to pick up because of his fiscally irresponsible self-centered behavior.....but Breitbart wont tell you that, it makes much better political cover story to simply spout "cute" commercial quips...Joe Walsh is a phony
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/July-2011/Joe-Walsh-Child-Support-and-Other-Debt-Problems/

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Steinar Andersen

8:17 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

When it comes to child support issues.... nothing is ever what it seems (especially when there are changes in income and the courts haven't caught up to the reality). I can probably count to quite a few campaigns on both sides that have the occasional liens. I am not providing cover for the guy, but as long as he is managing his peronal financial issues.... the subject is just "part" of the conversation at that point. Anne, if you have something personal against the guy besides that.... just say you have something personal.

Regarding the choices........ he was the lesser of 2 evils as far as I was concerned (as Melissa Bean represented the ideology that doesn't represent my concerns). And I'd rather take a flawed candidate than a candidate that will contribute to the partisan chaos that is Democratic Party Politics as it stands today.

Nightcrawler

8:04 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

By no means am I defending Joe Walsh's prior alleged transgressions, but last I checked he legally reached an agreement with his ex-wife regarding this matter which is 100 percent legally binding, meaning as of this moment he is under zero obligation legally to her or anyone for anything in the past.

Just something you failed to mention, Anne.

Attack his personal character all you want, but the fact is he is a far better congressman than Melissa Bean ever was, hands down, and would be far better than Duckworth as well.

And if someone who has such a lengthy fiscally irresponsible history as you allege he does has done such a better job while in office than Melissa Bean did, what does that tell you about the candidates the Democratic party keeps putting against him?

That's the scary reality.

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Nightcrawler

8:18 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Walsh's ex, in the article above:

"Like many families we have had our share of issues and made our share of mistakes over the years," the statement read. "Having resolved these issues together and cleared up these mistakes in private, we now agree that Joe is not and was not a deadbeat dad and does not owe child support."

Given the fact there was an agreement, and his ex's words above, technically speaking, your posts are slanderous toward Walsh.

Just saying.

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Resident 225

11:25 am on Friday, June 22, 2012

Tim - I go back to another post I made on another article about Walsh. I'm not attacking Walsh's character or conservatism but I am attacking the fact that he has done nothing for the District he serves. This man won by 200 hundred votes, not a mandate by any means and he has been on a self-promoting tour ever since. He likes to yell in his town hall meetings which gets him much YouTube exposure so he's known throughout the country but for the residents of District 8 currently he's done zilch. The guy can't even determine where he's going to run. First it was Dist 14, then it was District 6, and now its District 8. Just an example of his disregard for the residents. He railed against Bean that she didn't live in the District. Has he moved because I don't think McHenry is in the new District 8. The guy is using Congress for his own political future. He represents only himself.

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Nightcrawler

9:50 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Oh please. Melissa bean couldn't be found for a face-to-face meeting for YEARS. LITERALLY.

Like it's Joe's fault he cannot decide where to run initially because of a political stunt by the state's democrats to redistrict everything because they didn't like the way the old District 8 voted?

Sorry, but voting for Duckworth is also telling the state's democrats that you are okay with them stepping on voters' feet and redistricting to their liking. It shows how much they respect the people's votes to begin with. They don't. They lost an election fair and square, so they re-district everything in a political stunt to try and gain their house seat back.

Clearly, you aren't someone who likes Walsh, so for you to say his views only represent himself is ridiculous. The majority of people wouldn't have voted for him in the last election if that was the case.

So perhaps you should go check your facts about why Walsh is running where he is first before accusing him of not knowing where to run. That's the fault of the state's democrats because the re-districted everything. He stayed in District 8. THEY were the ones that moved the district's boundaries, not him.

What you call a "self-promoting tour" is considered listening to his voters to others. If he didn't go out and meet everyone, you'd be screaming he doesn't have time for voters, so give it a rest. Your arguements are biased and lack accurate facts.

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Resident 225

8:17 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Tim - Check your facts and see what Melissa Bean did for the District during her term. Clearly your someone who doesn't like Duckworth so to make the statements you make about her is ridiculous. So perhaps you should step back and give it a rest. My arguments don't lack accurate facts because I have tried to work with Mr. Walsh because he is my Congressman. Try to find him in Dist 8 - you won't. I sincerely hope you live in the new District 8 and Duckworth becomes your representative. I don't have to suffer Walsh any longer after the election.

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Nightcrawler

8:35 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Resident 225, I happen to be an actual journalist locally who couldn't get a talk in person or on the phone for YEARS with her, nor could her constituents. So don't tell me to check my facts, because I check my facts more than 99.9 percent of people out there.

I am also allowed to have a personal opinion, regardless of my line of work.

My statements are far from ridiculous. Duckworth ran a mean-spirited campaign last time and lost. Again, as I predicted above, here come the insults. So thanks for proving my point.

You claim you can't find Walsh in District 8? Ummm, he only holds meetings seemingly every week locally, which he publicizes in great, great detail. I'd be more than happy to let you know where he is next time he holds a town hall. There have been literally dozens of them, something almost anyone on this board for either side can verify.

So don't tell me about facts when all I do is offer them and constantly check them. I'll give it a rest when people like yourself stop insulting, slandering and spreading misinformation about people. That's when I'll stop. Until then, you'll have to deal with it.

I live in the old District 8, sorry to ruin your day. The one I and others voted for Walsh in, after I twice voted for Bean, only to have her disappear on everyone locally. And what did democrats in Illinois do to show how much respect they had for us voters?

The re-districted everything, a huge slap in the face to the voice of the People.

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